List of Postings of User PlayTOE
Can an atheist celebrate Christmas? 16-9 37-9 39-1 39-3
Best atheist videos 7-6 7-7 7-8 7-9 7-10 8-1 8-2
Jesus Camp : The Movie 18-10
Atheist T-Shirt Designs & Slogans 15-3 15-6 18-4
People saying Bless You when a person sneezes 13-4
Do Atheists need a symbol? 17-5 17-8 24-5
Celebrity Atheists 4-10 5-7
Male Circumcision: Religious Stupidity or Genuine Benefit? 50-8 73-6
The Secret / Law of Attraction ? 30-1
Beyond Belief 2006 videos 11-8
Is atheism a religion? 9-2 9-6 58-10 67-7 68-3 68-10 84-6
The evolution of sex / gender 13-6
Atheism vs. Agnosticism 20-9
The Blasphemy Challenge 22-7 23-1 23-10 25-6
Death 4-5 4-7 5-6 5-9 6-3
Young Earth Atheists 9-4
Is philosophy bullshit? 18-4
Any bright suggestions what we should call ourselves? 27-3 27-6 27-7 27-8 28-9 29-3 29-8 31-3 34-7 35-5 35-8 36-5 36-8 36-10 37-1 37-3 43-8 52-5 53-2 53-5 60-7
You're an atheist. Are you also moral? 31-1 31-7 32-7
No god, but an afterlife? 16-2 18-9 28-4 53-9 56-9 57-2
Atheist Fundamentalists 4-1 13-9
Atheist Satellite Channel 2-2
Five Most Damning Bible Passages? 10-3 15-9
Ayn Rand about selfish morality 2-6
Was Jesus Real? (Part 3) 3-10 7-1 8-1 8-7 9-4 9-7 10-6 10-10 12-3 19-4 19-6 19-8 20-4 20-8 20-9 21-2 21-6 21-10 22-2 22-4 22-6 22-8 23-3 23-5 25-1 31-6 31-9
Camp Quest (open link before voting) 1-10
Global Warming 5-7 5-9
Paradox of Nothingness 4-1
Easter: was it Hijacked ??? 8-1 8-5 8-7 8-9 9-1
Should an atheist worship? 6-1
Is atheisim compatable with... 3-8
The universe is an "accident?" 3-2 3-4
What is Enlightenment? 7-1
Passive atheism dilemmas 1-5 2-2 2-6 3-1
how is it possible to study the bible and still believe it? 19-8 20-10
Leading Atheists is like herding cats. 1-1 1-3 1-7 1-8 2-2 2-3 2-6 3-4 3-7 3-9
I have a question 1-8
The greatest living philosopher? 4-4 4-6
Atheists shooting priests in mexico? 1-3 2-9 3-1 3-3
Is this what passes for reason with xians? 1-4
Eyes may have built the worm's brain (ie ours). 1-10
atheism and ethics 2-1 2-4 2-9 3-10 7-5
A Bible story 1-7
How can we define atheism in the Indic context? 1-3
Is creationism evil? 1-7
Why was Jesus not sent to Rome? 1-2
Biblical Sex 1-8 2-2 3-10
Something I didn't like about "The God Delusion" 7-3 8-7 8-10 10-3
Fed up with seeing "merciless rationalism". 1-5
Where do we get our ethics from, if not from Religion? 4-8 5-1
Heaven never appealed to me, what about you? 1-9
The Rise of Atheism in America.. 1-6
Atheist "Inshallah!"? 1-4 2-2
Will the "real" Jesus please stand up? 1-1 1-5 1-7 1-9
Is there any evidence in support of positive/strong atheism? 1-5 3-4 4-1 4-6 7-3 8-8 9-1 9-3 11-6 12-8 14-1 14-3 14-8 15-2 15-7 16-2 16-6 17-2 17-8 17-10 18-3 19-1 19-4 20-2
The truth about you and GOD. 18-1
China, biggest society of atheists, not mentioned in book 1-6 2-7
Question:Shouldn't atheists at least pretend to be religious 2-8
This is why we "respect" religious beliefs. 1-3
Regime Change - the morality of 16-2
Stupid things people do in the name of religion 2-9
Why is life precious to an atheist? 1-2 5-2 6-5 7-2 8-2 9-4
Karma 2-10
Abortion and morality 7-2
Sacrifice? 2-7
Best Act of Moraility 1-6
So what is the REAL story of Jesus??? 2-9 4-2
What does skeptic imply most, agnostic or atheistic? 1-4
I need some thoughts on this, help please. 1-2 2-4
How not to "come out" at a family dinner party 1-8 2-7
Bayesian children? 1-9
Is it really so hard to be an atheist these days? 2-10
Christianity and fair treatment of women & minorities 1-10
Religious doctors refusing to give treatment. 1-4
Was Jesus a good ethical teacher? 1-5 2-5 4-5
Spiritualism is secret commander of Atheism 2-1 3-8
It may sounds an insult to others BUT 2-9
We shouldn't be selling atheism 6-8
Origins of "morality" 1-4 2-5 4-3
Humans vs. Animals 4-7 5-3 7-5
Paul & Jesus 1-5
The Song of Songs: erotic and Divine love 2-8
This guy deserves a medal 1-4
Renouncing Atheism 5-2 8-9
Proof of Biblegod? 2-9
Speaking up 4-1
Christians: whats your theological worldview? quiz 1-2
Naturalism VS Atheism 1-7
Radical Faeries : Religion? Delusion? An excuse for a party? 1-2
Is it wrong to destroy someone's faith? 1-6 4-10 9-5 19-7
Is god the real problem? 1-5
Is god the real problem? 1-4
Proof there is a Creator? 2-9
The ethical language of Atheism 2-7
Am I a hypocrite? 1-9
Why I Can't Not Believe (maybe you can help) 4-4
Ghosts: Your Position? 3-2 4-2 17-1 17-6 18-3 18-6
Bloody awful Dennett interview 2-7
The evolution of humour 6-10
Hindu widows 1-9
The Same God? 2-2
Poll: For "Born Again" atheists 4-10
Raising children as atheists? 3-6
Confused to a point. 1-6 3-2
Atheism and Moral Faith 4-5 4-10 5-5 5-9 6-1
On Dawkins' Petition.. 1-10
Who suffered more: Jesus or Judas? 1-4
Works of religious brilliance 2-2
Students Trade Bibles for Porn 5-6 6-4 6-8
Where do atheists get their morals? 5-2
How much does Evolution have to do with atheism? poll 1-3 2-3
Look what I'm up against! 1-2
Faith: Spandrel or Adaptive Trait? 2-2 2-6
Need help spreading atheism, structuring pamphlets 2-10
Atheism and mass murder 3-1
Should we respect religion? 4-8
What Atheists Can't Answer 1-7
Thoughts of a Dying Atheist: Interview with June Callwood. 1-3
100% Atheist: Is That Possible? 1-8 3-10 5-6 5-9 6-9 7-4 7-8 8-3 8-7 8-9 9-1 9-4 9-9 10-9 11-1 11-6
125 million for chaplains in Australian schools 1-5
Atheist swearing 47-4
How to respond 3-4
"True Blue Aussies Love Jesus" 2-5 3-10 4-2
Welcome to the New Forum 4-9 18-6
In laws and speaking up with atheism. 1-8
Should atheism be taught in religious studies classes? 3-1 3-2
Catastrophic Failure of the Financial System 78-5
Can an Atheist Believe in a Higher Power? 1-5 2-6
Atheists Fragmented... 1-4 1-6
Dumbsday! 1-2
How knowlegable does an atheist have to be? 1-10
Spirituality without the 'spirit' 1-3
Reversing Pascal's wager? 1-5 1-8
reasons to be good without god 1-5
Not the Center of the Universe. 1-3
What if atheists are wrong? 1-4 2-9
Dawkins vs Hitchens. 1-5
Deism versus Atheism? 1-5 3-6
Did my parents just find out I'm an atheist?... 2-5
Dead end thread, sorry. 2-1
Prince of Darkness! Fill me with your naughty badness! 1-9
Something I think we need to remind ourselves of here 2-1 3-10 4-5 5-2 5-10
Trust Issue: Secular Humanists vs. Atheism 7-2 7-6
Are Atheists more likely to be vegitarian? 2-8
Philip Kitcher's Criticism of Dawkins et al. 1-4
Hi new member here, need some advice. 1-7
Humanism is more absolute than Godism. 1-6
Atheists object to passive religious practices 1-10 2-7 3-10 5-7
Being a "Hindu Atheist" in India 1-2 1-9 2-1 2-4 2-10
The existence of the Bible equals God. 1-8 3-2 3-3
Prayer at meetings 1-6 2-3
Daily reminders that there is no god 1-9 5-8
Am I an Atheist? 1-4
Atheist Hindu? 1-4
A dream I had... 1-8 2-1
Our Central Dilemma 2-2
a way to influence rational thinking 1-2 1-4 1-8
Should we be teaching people to rationalise away Love? 1-2 1-4 2-6 3-4
Circumstantial Evidence 1-7
The Five Prayers Experiment 1-3 1-5 1-7 1-9
Chuck Norris Jokes about branding atheists... 1-6
The Dawkins Atheism Scale and Unicorns 1-4 1-7 2-2 2-5
Muslim lawmakers attack Taslima Nasreen 1-2
Telling my parents if I'm under 18 1-4
atheist symbols 1-8
Narrow Perspective 1-10 2-8 2-10 3-6
Christian boot camp drags 15 yr old girl behind a car 6-1
Rational Atheism 1-3
Marking the conversion to Atheism 1-6
Pantheistic Atheism 1-8
Atheist Tattoo 2-7
Do atheists have any responsibility to religions’ refugees? 1-10
Strong Atheism: The Case for Evacuating the Middle Ground 1-3
Irrefutable proof that God doesn't exist.. 1-2
That Morality argument again 1-3
How to evade? 1-2
Any Atheist Please Read! We Need To Debunk This 2-1
Do even atheists dwell on God at troublesome times? 1-5
What age did you 'become' an atheist? 2-8
Sick of theists using their amateur science to defend their 1-2 3-7 6-4 6-6
Losing faith... 8-8 9-1
Why do atheists... 4-2 4-5
Vote for atheism for Larry King Live show! 4-2
Your funny encounters, moments, with religious people. 2-3
Dennett in gossip rag "Us Magazine" (pic) 1-3
Solutions for Closet Atheists like myself. 1-8 2-4
The thin edge of the wedge in Canada? 2-9 3-2
A very disturbing video from inside the USA ... re September 1-1 3-3 3-9
UK Faith Schools 13-4
Radiometric Dating 3-7
World Trade Center? What Really Happened? Pt. 1 42-2
BBC Radio 4: Thought for the Day 17-10
Do you believe in Ghosts? Part II 25-8 25-10 29-1 30-4 30-7 30-10 32-1 32-7
US Presidential Election 2008 - John McCain 78-9
Why did life only start once? 9-4
"Taliban" jew in Israel 11-1
Beyond Belief 3: Candles in the Dark 1-6
Court to Decide 'Under God' and 'In God We Trust' 21-2
TV: The Genius of Charles Darwin 96-1 96-3 97-9
True Atheists Do not Exist 19-4
New atheist trying to cope 4-4
New Zealand "Bible Crisis" 5-4
Religious diversity may be caused by disease 1-3
a new atheist needs your suggestions 3-5
Do you want a God? 4-10
"Atheism Has No Morals" 1-6 3-8 4-1 4-3 4-9
Why is meat tasty? 2-7
Grandmother died today (Aug 5) Advice needed 3-2
US Presidential Election 2008 - Barack Obama 3 61-4 62-2
Atheists Admit Defeat 3-10
Hatred? 1-5 1-9
Theological justification for genocide Part Two 2-9
How did nipples evolve? 1-5 1-8
Atheists getting angrier and more "strident"? 1-8
So you're on your death bed... 2-2
Today I met an ugly American. 1-1 3-1 3-5 3-10 6-10 8-3
An unscientific election poll 1-1
Is there any evidence of the exodus at all? 2-9
Can we appeal to religious people at all? 3-10
Electing to not crush faith 1-8
God trumps doctors for many Americans 2-8
Are we too negative? 2-8
Do you think its possible to be born racist? 15-5
This is kinda funny. 3-1
Some serious questions about pantheism 2-4
Why are planets round? 7-1
Man seeks Crocodile 'blessing', Crocodile responds... 1-10
Father in law issue : need help 1-8
Indian Atheism 1-4
Einstein's God 4-2
Ukraine fears it may be the next target for Russia 2-4
Muslim fraudster uses religion to try and escape punishment 1-4
Reading the Bible... 1-5
Green as Grass about our one true deity. 1-1
A theory on the bible 1-4
first multicells 3-9 4-9
Questions for Atheists 2-5
Hi, Professor Dawkins 2-4
Collective name for non-theists? 4-2
Religions are losing the battle generation by generation 1-2
Selling atheism with T&A 1-3
Hospital Chaplain job description 1-2
Scientists unmask brain's hidden potential 1-2
The Prayer Experiment 1-2
What's The Greatest Atheist Movie Ever Made? 1-6
Bible Prophecy 1-2
Rapid Evolution Disproving Darwin? 1-2
Results of an anonymous poll in my biology class. 1-2
Graduate student's paper sheds light on bonobo language 1-2 2-6
Who has overthrown the most democracies? 18-4 18-6
Mom has problems with me being an atheist. 2-4
Canadian election 15-4 16-1 27-9
Gravity Hypothesis of Mass Extinction 1-2 3-7
Lieberman a wolf in sheeps clothing. 1-2
There may be only choices really 1-2
Family asking me to go to AiG's Creation Museum on Sunday 1-8
Origin of the Judeo-Christian god 1-2
Where is the proof of Jesus? 1-3
Richarddawkins.net banned in Turkey 21-6
Greetings from Ontario, Canada 2-3
Unique animal species can survive in space 1-6
Why I believe in an afterlife 1-3
Randi lecture in NYC 1-2
First time here but going through some rough times! HELP 2-3
Need help. 2-7
Chuck Smalkowski case 1-2
US Presidential Election 2008-VP Candidate Sarah Palin, 2 10-8 13-4 17-1 62-3
How do I tell my wife 2-2
Website that shows verse by verse contradictions? 1-2
Evolution of Life Disproved (joke of the day) 2-8
Creationism in the Science Classroom 1-10 3-4
on comforting the bereaved 1-2
Listen my heathens! 1-4 2-2
Slavoj Žižek - Maybe We Just Need a Different Chicken 1-2
A question about equating the natural with the supernatural 1-2
Bible Passages Explained 14-4
Plato's analogies...confusing 1-2
Peres: Ahmadinejad thinks he's the supreme authority 1-2 1-4 1-6
Career in atheism or philosophy? 1-2
The Crux of the Matter;#2. Last words! 1-2
The Jesus myth... help! 1-6
Does your toilet face Mecca? 1-2
Bush wants crooked bankers above the law 1-2
Lessons From The Iditarod 1-2
Environmental influences on genes and acquired traits 1-2
Oldest Rocks on Earth Found 1-3
The Women of the Kabul Police Academy 1-2
Why is there a 'Divine Proportion' in nature? 1-2
US Presidential Debate Obama vs McCain 4-1
US Presidential Election 2008-VP Candidate Sarah Palin, 3 26-5 40-8
Confronting a parent 1-2
Waterside Hypotheses of Human Evolution 13-6 14-6 14-10 15-3 15-6 20-3 31-9 32-1 32-7 32-9 33-6 34-3 36-6 37-5 37-6 44-5 45-2 45-5 51-6 51-10 52-8
How Did You Finally Lose Your Belief Blinders? 4-3
Atheist Bus Campaign 60-2
Jerusalem syndrome 1-2
Good Morals??? 1-2 2-4 2-7 2-9 3-2 3-8
Evidence of a real "God"?? 7-1
US Presidential Election 2008-VP Candidate Sarah Palin, 4 18-10 19-8 22-2 24-6
Solar System's Young Twin Has Two Asteroid Belts 1-2
'Hour of Power' preacher removed by father 1-2
The Brain’s Clever Way of Showing Us the World as a Whole 1-2
Is the New Testament really ethical superior to the Old Test 1-2
The Chiller from Wasila 1-2
These are the closest thing Atheists have to 'Hymns' 1-2
Proximate and ultimate causations of religion 2-5
Bible Study Classes...Help Me! 5-7 6-4
God and Morality 1-2 1-4 1-6 3-1 3-9 4-2
After Atheism 2-6 3-4 3-9
4-1 Odds that God Exists... ! 1-2
health care--my already concern 1-3
Wanna help me with my essay... Please? 1-2
Allah gives man the power of 30,000, 260 horsepower 1-3
Anyone have info on this? 1-2
TGD and the roots of religion 1-2
You know you're an atheist when... 1-10
Faith vs Creation Science - why are both needed? 1-2
Where do YOU get your morals from? 1-4 2-2 2-7 3-7 4-3 4-6 7-3 8-6 9-10 10-9
Christianity in the light of evidence...or the lack thereof. 1-5 1-9
The origin of Our Morality is naturalistic 1-1 1-7 2-3 3-2 3-4 3-6 3-9 4-2 4-5 4-7 4-10 5-3 5-6 5-8
The Robert Byers Challenge 8-6
An anti-bible 1-2
Historical Accuracy of Bible 1-3 2-10 3-4 3-10 4-4 4-6 4-9 5-6
Neo-Nazism and Racism in Germany 1-2
Postal Address of Santa Claus 1-2 1-4
A rather sad, happy greeting. 1-3 1-6
Who has killed more, Satan or God? 1-2
Waterstones in Cardiff bow to pressure from Christian Voice 10-6
The Jesus Challenge 3-2 3-9 5-7 9-1 10-9 11-4 11-8 11-9 13-1 13-3 13-5 13-7 13-10 14-2 14-5 14-10 15-1 15-4 15-5 15-8 16-2 16-6 16-8 17-3 17-5 17-8 17-10 18-3 18-6 18-9 19-3 19-4 19-6 20-3 20-6 20-7 21-1 21-5 21-7 22-10 24-6 24-10 28-9 29-2 29-5 29-6 29-8 30-7 31-2 31-5 31-7 32-4 32-6 33-1 33-4 33-7 33-9 34-6 34-8 34-9 36-1 36-4 36-5 36-6 36-8 36-10 37-5 37-10 38-2 38-7 39-7 39-9 40-7 40-9 41-2
Looking for one of my posts 1-2
Unsure How to Respond to Creationist Argument 1-2
Atheist Lord's Prayer 1-2
Atheists and organ donation 5-6 5-8
Praying for the global economy... 1-2
History of Atheism 1-2
WSJ: 10 Commandments vs. 7 Aphorisms: A New Religion Covets 1-2
Child circumcision to be banned in Denmark? 1-2
Australia's tax system - Religious Exemption 1-2
[Fun News] Map Reveals the Secrets Behind Place Names 1-2
Science delivering on human imortality? 1-2 1-8
A Scottish Response To Christopher Hitchens Two Challenges 1-6 3-8 4-3 6-1 7-9 8-5 8-8 9-4 9-7 9-9 15-3
So I tried to sign up for 'The Prophecy Club'... 1-2
Christians against cartoons 1-2
Scientists offer explanation for 'face blindness' 1-2
Water confirmed as major greenhouse gas 1-1
Poll: Allowing banned members to apply to return 1-2
How Evolution Proves the Existence of God 24-6 24-9 25-10 27-8 32-4
How atheist are you? 1-4
The next religion, it's going to be the strongest 3-3 4-1 4-7
Looking for a usefully simple definition of Evolution 1-3 2-5 2-9 4-3
Why Religion Works 5-7
'John 3:16' 1-1
Book review of the Bible 1-7
Proposition for National Science Standards 1-2
Science Fair Project on Simulating Evolution 1-2 1-4
Do you hide your beliefs about religion and if you do, ..... 1-2
Fiction: McCracken and the Bees 1-2
Evolutionary Crawl or Leap? Please Help w/ your knowledge. 1-2
On the problem of [the basis of] morality, free will etc. 1-2
Atheism About Accepting Limits? 1-2 1-8
Evidense of a real "God"?? part 2 mystics and miracles 1-2 1-6
Brit ISPs censor Wikipedia over 'child porn' album cover 12-10
Non-Survival of the Fittest 1-4
RANT: I detest modern universities !! 1-6
Youtube response to "Prove God doesn't exist win $2,500!!!" 1-2
RD.net Nativity Play - The Script 11-4
Talkorigins has disappeared? 3-3
Origin of Christmas Chain Letter 1-2
Design: A universe where theism is impossible? 1-2
World Trade Center? What Really Happened? Pt. 5 3-8 35-5 35-9
Legal Dilemma I 1-2
Christian graven image stolen 1-2
Quantum Mechanics and New "Scientific" Notions of God 1-2 2-6 6-2
Happy Fesitvus! 1-2
Santa reading the bible on kids show 1-2
Psychics 1-5
Message from beyond on draw-and-erase board 1-2
On Promoting Santa Claus as God! 1-2 1-9
Need facts to debunk anti-evolution propaganda 1-2
Atheism Study: A Hypothetical 1-2
A Modest Alternative Energy Proposal 1-2
The admonitions of Ipuwer 1-2
A New Theory for the Origin of Bird Flight 5-2 9-6 15-6 15-9 16-8 17-9 18-8 18-10
Catholic Adoption Charities still above UK law 1-2
Double or Nothing 1-2
You can't choose your beliefs. 1-2 1-9 2-7 3-8 4-1
How do you feel about eternal life? 1-5
What is this in original Greek? 1-2
Illinois House impeaches Gov. Rod Blagojevich 1-5
the unification of atheists 12-5
Plane crash in NY - God gets credit for saving all. 3-5
The Political Will to Face Environmental Affairs 1-2 3-9 4-1 4-6
Atheist Bus Campaigns, Pt. 2 13-2 17-8
Help refute this Creationist Video 1-2 1-6
Total Deconversion 1-2
Becoming atheist for all the wrong reasons 3-1
Honor killing? Young mother murdered 1-2
The Chinese Junk 1-2
Great one liners for atheists 1-2 3-7 4-3 10-7 11-7
My best argument against religion ... 1-2
Canada: Pastor took girl, 10, to bed 1-2
Blasphemy law revitalised in Norway. 1-2
Hewitt's ghostly encounter 1-2 1-5 1-7 1-10
The evolution of human hairlessness? 1-2 1-3 2-1
Psychic was right, says $14.8m winner 1-2
"The Problem with Primates" - oh dear 1-2
Aussie gen X & Y "less religious, more charitable" 1-2
Obama is on a roll... 1-2
Should religion impact on Government policy? 1-2
Is Jesus the result of a Jewish civil war? 1-2 1-4
Ted Haggard on Larry King 1-2
Was Jesus Real? (Part 1) 87-5 88-10 92-8 93-9
How should I respond 1-4
Bloody Hypocrites 1-2 1-8
Evolution to avoid extinction 1-2
had an interesting discussion the day b4 1-2
De-baptism for atheists 1-2
Have you had a wooie experience? 1-2
Religious Pamphlet with God Delusion? 1-2
South Africa: Lesbians subjected to "corrective rape" 1-4
Is Richard just preaching to the choir? 1-2
Plants V. Humans.... Who's the smartest &, who's in charge? 1-2
Revised Christian Canon 1-2 1-7 3-5
Fundamental particles 'aware'? 1-2 2-3
AIG and the mortgage meltdown 1-1
Does USA owe 5.5 Trillion $ 1-2
Amazing moment an orang-utan caught a rope thrown by humans 1-2
The Star - Chapter 1: In The Beginning - Work In Progress 1-2
Is this a serious forum for debate? 12-10 13-6 14-7 14-10 15-5 15-7
Question: Evolution of the replication Mechanism 1-2 1-8
Bat Hung onto Shuttle During Liftoff 1-2
China wants Keynes's bancor to replace the dollar 1-2 1-6
Southern Baptists urge their members to evangelize more 1-2 1-4
Objective Reality 1-2
"Psychic" gets busted! 1-2
Geopolitics in 2050 1-2 1-8 2-2 2-4 2-9 2-10 3-2 3-4 3-10 4-3 4-6 6-6
Poll - Is true AI possible? 1-2 1-6 2-7 4-3
my take on the evolution debate 1-2
ATHEISTS: What do you think of Jesus? 11-5 11-7 11-9 13-3 13-6 13-8 14-2 14-6 14-9 15-4 15-6 16-9 18-5
Can the OT prophets be said to reappraise Leviticus etc? 1-2
The Biocentric Universe 1-2 1-5 1-7 2-3
Christian Woman & Her Atheist Husband 1-2
Implications for Psychology from the Ancestors Tale 1-2
Imam: Swine flu confirms Qur’an 1-3
Religious support for torture 1-1
Are Bush/Blair etc. War Criminals? 1-2
The Theist-Atheist Scale: Where are you? (Part 2) 19-1 25-7 27-4 27-9 30-1 30-5 30-7 34-7 35-4 67-10